Timothy Benton | Nov 11, 2018 | 0
At A Crossroad, Where Do We Go From Here?
We have seen nothing but the story of the pipe bombs in the news, I wrote an article on it yesterday, faced attacks from people who read the title (DEMOCRATS, YOU CAN’T CLAIM VICTIMHOOD FOR SOMETHING YOU STARTED) but did not read the article, in the article I do not call for violence, only say you can’t play the victim when you encourage others to do this. So, where do we go from here
I stand by the article, you can’t support people like Modanna who said she dreams of blowing up the White House, support other actors like Denero along with Biden who claim they want to assault the president, Rosie who has openly called for a Military Coup against the president, (wonder why charges have not been pressed against her for this, not to mention the fact that she did the same thing Obama put Dinesh D’Souza had to sit in prison for, yet not a peep about her facing the same punishment).
We have seen the assault against our congressmen in a baseball game, the only thing CNN could do was try to lie and say only the Democrats were praying for the injured, ignoring the fact that both sides did this before the game.
Yesterday I put on the news, was watching CNN, the holier then thou, outright lies from the news people saying that Trump supported David Duke, even though he has denounced him time after time, then saying it was only Trump that caused this while ignoring what they have done, is starting to get to be a bit much, so where do we go from here?
Our nation is at a crossroad, we know how the spin masters will paint this, they will either blame the far right, the white nationalist, or Trump, claim as they do now that anyone that votes for the GOP this election is supporting racism, homophobia and wants to push granny off the cliff, and they wonder why things are escalating?
What we all need to do is take a step back, we are, as a nation at the breaking point, it would not take much to push us over the edge and set off a full-scale civil war, something that I have heard calls for more and more from the internet, personally I think these fools have watched too many Hollywood movies and don’t realize the horror that would come from such a thing, this nation would suffer for years afterward, just like it did in the last war. So, where do we go from here?
It seems that right now there are calls to stop talking, this is the worst thing we can do, we need to talk more, discuss our differences, see if we can find a way to work with each other, to agree to disagree in some cases, to compromise in others. The problem right now is both sides seem to be at a point that they are not willing to budge. Thus we see the rhetoric and violence escalating as neither side is willing to back down.
There is also the problem that most of the violence has been coming from just one side. We have not seen conservatives at any Clinton or Sanders rally, yet go to a Trump or any GOP rally you will see a gauntlet you have to go through to listen to them, this is unacceptable. While everyone has a right to protest, slapping hats off, that is assault, so is ripping signs out of a person’s hand and other acts of violence, this sadly is only coming from one side, if the other finally gets tired of this and responds, all hell is going to break loose. Where do we go from here?
We need to have leaders on both sides of the aisle stand togather, call for a calming, stop the blaming, and call out where the attacks are coming from, let them know that this is no longer going to be tolerated. One has a right to oppose the direction Trump is taking this country in, I sure did the same with Obama, the difference is I never called for a coup, sure did not walk around with pictures of his severed head in my hands, nor did I once say I dreamed of blowing up the White House, if I had done something this stupid I most likely would have had a visit from the Secret Service, and rightfully so.
Our leaders need to take a hard stance on the groups causing the violence, and no, it is not just the White Nationalist, they are just a pinprick compared to groups like Antifa. Everyone has the right to be heard, that is what free speech is about, it is not given to protect only speech we agree with, rather it is in effect to protect speech we find despicable, even speech that makes us uncomfortable.
Maybe we need to start demanding civics classes be started in both colleges and high schools again, show what the court has found free speech is. Here is a great example of cases concerning free speech.
Freedom of speech includes the right:
- Not to speak (specifically, the right not to salute the flag).
West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).
- Of students to wear black armbands to school to protest war (“Students do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate.”).
Tinker v. Des Moines, 393 U.S. 503 (1969).
- To use certain offensive words and phrases to convey political messages.
Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).
- To contribute money (under certain circumstances) to political campaigns.
Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976).
- To advertise commercial products and professional services (with some restrictions).
Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Consumer Council, 425 U.S. 748 (1976); Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977).
- To engage in symbolic speech, (e.g., burning the flag in protest).
Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989); United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990).
Freedom of speech does not include the right:
- To incite actions that would harm others (e.g., “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).
- To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
- To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
- To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
- Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
- Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
Morse v. Frederick, 200 U.S. 321 (2007).
What is shown in these court cases, to put it in laymen’s terms, you have a right to free speech, everyone does, but what you don’t have the right to do is claim you are immune from responses to that speech. Along with this comes the right to oppose, you have no right to resist with force, if you do then you violate the law unless you are attacked while opposing, then you have every legal right to defend yourself.
Today we have groups that are saying another side violates all that is good, calling them fascist, thus when they attack, they say they are justified because they are attacking fascist, as most people would do. But are these people fascist? Of course not, most of these people claiming this are the ones acting like fascist brown-shirts, pretending to be fighting fascist while acting in such a manner themselves.
We need to have all call for an end to this violence, for if they don’t, it could soon spill over to a street near you. This could quickly go from a question of where does it go from here to when will it be coming here if we don’t get a grip on this now.